we used to be the bulgaria of american politics and now we've turned into the paris. or that's how we feel. i would say on the whole, having talked to both sides repeatedly, they both insist that they're trackings show their candidate up a point or two. and i have no reason to disbelief them. that leads me to believe that it's very close. president obama would love to have virginia, because if he gets it, he really blocks most of the reasonable pathways to 270, assuming he keeps ohio and he's clearly ahead there. and governor romney really needs virginia. he's got to have it. >> speaking of gotting to have a state, let's go down to adam smith in florida. you guys had a poll out today, 51-45 that had romney ahead. this seems to be saturday same story that larry is hearing in virginia, i hear in florida, where the two sides insist they're ahead because they believe in two different world views of what the electorate is going to look like. >> i hear the same thing that both sides are convinced they're up by a point or two and this is a margin of error race. today was the